Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering Undergraduate Overview

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Um, so I'm gonna give you guys a couple of tips before we begin Andrew. That Green broadcast video button. You see that up there?

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When you make that Green by toggling it, you will be in control of the slides.

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OK, and then I'm gonna be in a background for the presentation, but you are not going to see me because I'm going to. I'm going to toggle my broadcast video button and then I will. You won't see me anymore, but I will be in the background and if anything if you need me for anything, I'll be here. I'll help with the chat as I can, but clearly I don't have the discipline specific expertise. I 01 other thing for Andrew and Bailey.

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Jeff shared during his presentation a coronavirus response that I thought might be beneficial for you guys. Um, so questions will come up in the chat. Like cat, what's gonna happen if the our class is gonna be on line for fall 2019? Is the campus going to close things like that? And Jack's response was essentially I don't know what's going to happen. No one knows what's going to happen, but I'm confident that we can deliver that you be can deliver a world class education if we have to pivot how we're teaching and how our students are learning.

So just to give you like a bit of a response that I've seen used with some success.

'cause we're doing it right now.

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And then I'll just be in the background. I'll shut myself off and then be in the background so.

So Andrew, I sent the request to get David Love, um, access to sleep. Does he know any? Does he know? Like how to get into the system? Does he know the login or where the events are or anything like that?

He said, he said at one point that he's used it, but all.

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Uhm, OK and then camper. I'm gonna just reflect. Refresh your recollection so this I or maybe um you haven't heard yet from Robert and Matt, but this is being recorded and then will post these on line once the captioning cleaned up.

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Hey everybody thanks for joining we will start here in just a just a second or so.

Awesome seeing a number of your checking in.

Thanks, we'll start hearing about, uh, 60 seconds.

And for those of you have joined since I last spoke, we've got about 4050 new people were going to start here in about 30 seconds. Thanks for joining, seeing a lot of you checking in there on the chat, thanks.

It's late and start uhm.

There's about, uh, the numbers are still climbing, so if you're joining, that's awesome. Um, somebody, somebody mentioned hoping we're safe and healthy. We are. We're all good. Let me start with introductions. My name is Kemper Louis. I am currently the chair of the mechanical and Aerospace Engineering Department.

Um, I've been at UB for almost 24 years. Uh, before that I was in North Carolina. I was in Georgia and I grew up mostly in Texas. But what I wanted to do, as we introduce ourselves, I'm going to ask my colleagues Andrew and latent appear something as well when I ask them to share either their favorite TV show, their favorite movie, or their favorite book. And so I'll start and I'll kind of give. I'll do all three. My favorite book is the Chronicles of Narnia series.

My favorite movie is remember the Titans an my favorite TV show is probably a toss up between 24 like the original one and the office. So just give you a little background into who we are going to introduce, Andrew Vogel song or who is our undergraduate coordinator. Andrew say hello.

Hi everybody, like like doctor Lewis set my name is Andrew Fogelsanger. I'm the undergraduate coordinator for the Department I handle.

Scheduling the courses um enrollment management, some advising. Once you guys progressive a little bit further in the program, you can come to me right from the beginning and I help with classes and getting into the classes you need to fill your schedule and all that kind of thing. I was born and raised right in this area. I went to suburban high school, Lancaster High School so I was I was born and raised here. I can't imagine.

Really being anywhere else.

Often.

So my favorite TV show is pretty easy. It's parks and rec. It seems to be what my wife and I watch. Whatever we turn the TV on. I do agree the office like like doctor Lewis said, it is right up there as well. Favorite movie for me might be too difficult to decide on one, so I'll stick with the favorite TV show is definitely parks and rec that that was an easy one.

So as long as Laytons Mike's on here will turn it over to him.

Yeah, then, Layton Collins is one of our students late now. Have you introduce yourself and tell him your favorite movie show or book?

And we can.

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Awesome late and also I am seeing some comments that some some of you can hear two of us but not the third and just refresh your browser. They're letting you know on the chat the right browser to use Chrome seems to work the best, but we're going to dive in. We've got the chat window open. Andrew Ann Layton, an some other people that you can't really see, but there in the background so bored by using team are going to be answering questions.

I'm gonna go through some information with some slides. I'll get to the end of that in about 30 minutes or so, 2530 minutes, and then I'll start to answer some questions as well. So I'm going to dive in. You can kind of keep up with me and chat at the same time I know you're good multitaskers, so you see Bailey and Shannon have introduced themselves. They're going to be helping out with the chat as well. Alright, so life and mechanical and aerospace engineering here you be.

You know there's there's a lot of perceptions about mechanical and aerospace engineering, and I wanted to make sure some of your perceptions about what those fields are are accurate. I've chosen some of these graphic images just because they represent a lot of what we do in study in our Department, whether it's Sustainable Energy, Nano, Micro Devices, Robotics, manufacturing, space propulsion, automated vehicles, prosthetics.

That that covers a lot of what we do. So while these images may not be exactly from the labs in our Department, but they represent the concepts that we that we study that we teach, and so this is really which comes should come to mind when we're talking about mechanical and Aerospace Engineering where you can get jobs. I'll start right off the bat is a lot of you are thinking where am I going to work? Where do students that you be actually get placed? We get it get placed in some.

Some really some innovative non traditional sectors. Let me let me give you an example. I just did a search jobs at Apple which you wouldn't think necessarily. Mechanical Engineers sure go work at Apple, but there's over 600 jobs that are related to mechanical engineering. I just did this search 2 days ago so you can see a screen capture their over 600 results to work at Apple.

Then I did a similar search for Google Mechanical Engineers at Google and there's over 100 jobs there currently for something to do with mechanical engineering. So a job in degree that's required in mechanical engineering background in mechanical engineering. I've shown you a couple right there. There's a product design engineer for the Google Nest product line. There's a camera hardware engineer that they needed some of their product line as well. So again over 100 jobs there.

And then I did a search for aerospace engineer at Amazon.

And you can see there are 67 jobs right now for aerospace engineers at Amazon because of their prime error operation, and we have really strong connections to to Amazon. I just met with one of the lead engineers from prime air just a couple weeks ago and I'll be meeting with him again in a couple weeks. They want to hire interns. They want to hire people from our program because we're the only space program in Sony were the only show in town.

Or when it comes to aerospace engineering, so our students are getting jobs in some very cool places. Let me let me show you just a few oven and what they're doing so Bradley cheat them on the left. There he got his bachelors in mechanical and Aero.

Which, by the way, it's fairly easy to do here. About 40% of our students get double degrees, mechanical and Aero because it's about four courses that are different. So if you come in with some AP credit, or if you take some summer classes or just take an overload on a couple of semesters, you can get 2 degrees in four years fairly easily. He found it while he was here. The student for exploration and development space, the said group, which has like over 100 students in it now.

He's now see 00 um and president at advanced based which if you haven't heard about it to start up in Colorado but it's not really a startup anymore 'cause it's doing a tremendous amount of work with NASA is tio at another startup blacksmith technologies so he's doing phenomenal that picture you see is him coming back to you be and talking with a lot of our students you see the Rockets those are the Rockets that our students are building Leslie whites.

On the right got her bachelors in mechanical engineering she's actually working at mitre Corporation in DC and what she's leading is actually the development of the next generation.

Flight control system for all of North America. So she's basically the lead on that team. Our flight control system, apparently from what she tells me, is very antiquated. It's patched, there's most of our FAA engineers don't actually know how it works because it's so old, and so the FAA in a number of organizations decided to reboot the entire North American flight control system, and she's the lead engineer on that.

I'm actually the rest of the world is watching what her team is doing is they may roll out the exact same system that she's helping design.

A couple other people.

To show you alicel Trinidad got her bachelors in mechanical engineering she was a swimmer when she was here she is now teaching in the city at CCNY but in between there she went to the FBI which was a very cool gig for her our students like I said go many different places she worked for the FBI for a few years and then decided to come back and do some more training in engineering and got her pH D and now she's a professor in the city.

Marcus yam.

Phenomenal young man he got his Bachelor science in the aerospace engineering and I remember teaching him he would come into class with his Camera around his neck as photography was his hobby.

But then when he graduated he realized he really wanted to pursue his passion.

And so he started into the photography field and now he has won 2 Pulitzer prizes which if you're not familiar with that it's basically the equivalent to the Nobel Prize in science.

And if you do the math you know he's if you look at his face you see how young he is he's in his mid thirties now he won those when he was the 3031 and there's his Instagram.

Address there if you want to connect with them and see what is doing but let me just show you some of the photos that he won Pulitzer Pulitzer prizes for so the Top one is the mud slides in Washington a few years ago that he was there for the terrorist attacks in San Bernardino he was at the Las Vegas fires last summer as well and then he flew here and spend some time with our students but what he's able to do is get photos that no other photographer can do because he hasn't aerospace engineering background so he can come into a situation.

And evaluate forces and stresses an light and angles very very quickly and he said in a number of interviews that he uses his engineering degree every single day so again I'm super proud of just this handful that I've been able to show you 'cause they're using their engineering degrees and significant creative ways.

One more John amend started empire robotics so he was an undergrad here mechanical and aerospace engineering you CEO and cofounder of empire robotics their company was on the cover of Popular Mechanics his robotic technique was actually some of the.

Late night shows had him and his team on their show to actually do some funny stuff with their robotics so Johns a fantastic guy out of the Boston area and then some of our students are just fantastic I'll just I'll highlight one here for talk for honey he won a recently the aviation week 2020s to watch so these are 20 people across the nation in their twenties in the aerospace field who nation needs to keep an eye on.

And he was one of'em we had one before that win as well so we've been averaging one a year in this very elite group of 20 students across the whole nation.

What is some of our other students go you can see a few here Megan and Abigail Raytheon an US Navy nuclear engineer there gavins and design engineer at Tesla we've got something going to Graduate School like Clayton who's on the web and are with us Alberto went to Princeton?

Megan's in General Dynamics shameless study at MIT Dann buckmaster started his own company so tresca design is his own company so we have a lot of entrepreneurs in our student body as well Jessica's at mode Chris noms at doing some work at NASA as well and then here's just a quick collection of some of the other companies and organizations that hire from our student body every single year so we've got you be grads and all these places.

Putting Tesla and space X and mogan counts pan and you'll recognize a lot of these icons here matter of fact if we we did a survey recently.

And this data has been updated a little bit but we asked basically last years grads how many are working or in Graduate School this percentage it shows 92 now which is phenomenal I just got the data maybe a day or so ago and it was at 95 so essentially almost almost all of our grads have found a job or they're in grad school somewhere on the right you can see most of them are in engineering.

But not all of'em you know some other men different fields which is cool that's exactly what we want our grads to do go change the world and how you're gifted an what you feel passionate about.

Where are they working you can kind of see?

Geographically there scattered really on the left coast on the on the right coast in the middle obviously you would imagine kind of in the northeast a concentration and you see that on the left is there is there starting salary you can kind of see that peak if it's too small for you the peak is in the 60 to $70,000 range.

Or so that's the most common starting salary range obviously that dependent upon where you live.

If you're living in Boston or Los Angeles you're probably going to be making more than that because you're spending more than that but you can see a very healthy distribution for starting salaries there as well?

Um our students graduate quickly when they graduate on time you can see our our plot the blue points are you BES percentage of students that finish in 4 years and you can see we are well above the national average where were way above Publix across the nations of public universities were even above private universities so you be prides itself on being able to guarantee a finish in 4 years if you wanted to take longer that's up to you.

Like I mentioned even most of our dual degrees so mechanical and aero double majors they finish in 4 years as well so you can get out get your job get to Graduate School all within 4 years.

Um so this is this is some data from the US Department of Labor.

This is kind of where the Mechanical Engineers are across the nation.

You can see we need Mechanical Engineers everywhere so the legend maybe a little bit small for you but the darkest green or where the most jobs in mechanical engineering are and that's the darkest green is between 7500 and about 44,000 Mechanical Engineers in that state so you can see very healthy across the nation lots of jobs in mechanical engineering aerospace is a little bit more particular little bit more specific degree so if you wanted to be an aerospace engineer in say.

North Dakota you know that may be difficult but you can see the concentrations in California New Mexico Texas Florida Ohio Mass Effect so those are kind of where you're going to see national labs like NASA like sandia national labs in Arizona and New Mexico.

I you're also going to see Maryland DC area there's a lot of contractors there there's a NASA site there as well but New York is just a shade below below that lots of aerospace jobs here as well.

How much are people making in mechanical engineering?

So before I showed you the starting salaries of our students.

This is the average salary of all Mechanical Engineers in the country in their state so this is not starting this is average and you can see that darkest blue is 96,000 about 128 thousand so that's the average of all the Mechanical Engineers in that state obviously if you're new you're going to be less than that but if you've been working for 20 years you're probably going to be more than that.

You can see you know as I mentioned if you're in California you better be making more because you're spending a lot more but you can see salaries are very healthy in the northeast as well New York New York is doing really well with mechanical engineering salaries.

This is the aerospace engineering salaries into aerospace engineers tend to make a little bit more because it's a little bit more specialized degree.

California the NASA effects we've got a lot of masters and PhD levels aerospace engineers there so they're going to be making more texts you've got the NASA site Colorado is a hotbed for aerospace engineering that's where Brad cheatham who I mentioned he started 2 companies there you've got the Virginia DC effect with NASA there as well.

Let me let me focus a little bit more here locally for us these are some of our faculty and these are the ones that have teaching awards so we pride ourselves on giving.

Presenting uh and supplying a world class education our students because one of the reasons is we have fantastic teachers and I hear this all the time I've heard from our students now who have gone online how great the faculty have been and these are just the ones with teaching awards and you can see a lot of you know there's there's almost half of our faculty at once on some kind of teaching award during their time here at you be which is really really great to see we've got new faculty.

As well just this past year we hired 5 new faculty and I'll just highlight them real quick up in the upper left is eleanora boda she does some cool work on space debris she came through.

Hours from McGill University in Canada Craig snowy kind of in the bottom on the left came to us from Texas Tech University where he was a professor but we recruited him here James chin next to him came to us from Kansas State University where he was a professor but he loved what was happening here at you being wanted to be apart of it geon King kinda don't going counterclockwise here in the upper right came to us she got her pH D from Colombia and then went to study at Michigan for a postdoc and she does rehab robotics.

And then artist year kind of right in the middle at the Top got his PhD actually here at UB and he's 1 of our teaching faculties so he does a lot of interaction with our with our undergrad students let me tell you a bit about.

Some of our faculty in the cool research that can that you can do I'm telling you this because undergrads are involved in just about every one of our research labs they're in my lab there in doctor salix lab there in doctoring get slab there in the labs of what I'm going to show you here so if you want to do research this is a great place to be because all of our faculty who are doing research basically we're working with undergrads in their lab doctor salic on the left there.

Is looking at lipid vesicles flow flows and I had no idea what that was until he told me?

We all have millions of these in our body and it's actually how diseases transferred from one part of the body to another and so he studies basically how these vesicles change shape when there's a disease attached to him and so his research can actually help understand the flow and the transmission of cancer through the body and I asked him could you actually be studying the transmission code 19 through the body and so he started to think about things like that as well his his research could could save my life one day so.

He's doing very cool stuff mattering dad is looking at underwater propulsion.

So he's got a very cool tank you see that kind of colored wing there with with the colored eddies of the flow that's underwater he's got a huge fish tank there's not real fish in it but he has these kind of flapping wings so he studying some very cool underwater propulsion techniques mean wheezing on the left and sumo Chowdhury on the right do a lot of robotics and autonomous systems and if this was automated you could see drones flying around the space is on the left and doctors things lab.

You would see walking robots and rolling robots and then the sumos on the right doctor Chowdhury on the right he has some simulation of UAV's and then he has real UAV's in his lab as well so they're always flying around and we got some outdoor testing facilities as well that our students are involved with they do some very cool work.

Doctor Bodie who I mentioned.

Is she doing space debris collection so she's working to try to figure out how we get all this debris?

That's out there in space now so we don't have basically have if you've seen the movie gravity so we basically don't have that in real life which is a very real possibility so she's doing some very cool simulation of space tethers to go get space debris and basically throw it into the atmosphere and burn it up or bring it back into our atmosphere and dispose of it John King who came to us from Michigan who had that I mentioned she's doing rehab rehab robotics so she works with a lot of children who have disabilities.

To help them learn how to either walk from an accident or walk from a disability so she's got a very cool research lab and she she works with our rehab science Department to really look at how to impact people through through robotic rehabs.

Um not dress bejanyan doctor I do some real cool work in design and 3 D printing and robotics as well so they're looking at advanced CAD systems that.

Those of you in school I know it's a number of you have done CAD before but you probably use your keyboard and your mouse they're looking at CAD using gestures which is pretty cool but they're also looking at CAD using just brain waves so if you see the picture kind of in the bottom in the middle there actually now have a CAD system where if I were to think of a cube or a sphere it pops up on the screen so no movement from me which is just phenomenal you can kind of think on.

On how fast CAD programs could could work if they could keep up with the speed of our thought as whereas we're coming up with shapes and assemblies and modules but they do a lot of work with you eaves as well 3 D printing of UAV's very cool work in their lab.

And now let me let me let me go down to some of our teaching lab so that was some of our research labs.

Now are teaching labs very cool research labs we've got state of the art facilities anywhere from the wind tunnel on the bottom left.

That's part of our aerospace program so if you're an aerospace engineer major you get to interact with the wind tunnel we've got our 3 D printing lab we've got our robotics lab we've got our virtual simulation lab in the bottom right so if you take our vehicle that dynamics class you actually get into the Ford Taurus and then you get to drive around and basically what's equivalent to something you would see at universal or Disney we basically have a 6 degree of freedom motion base that's exactly the same one that they would have a universal if you're writing.

Spiderman ride or the Star Wars ride at Disney that's basically what we have in our facility here so students can when they're studying about road vehicle dynamics they can be in that facility and they can be moving around feeling what it's like to be in a car that has an unstable center gravity for instance so they get to have some experiential.

Zone to what they're learning in the classroom.

And we've got some manufacturing labs and then our fluid thermal lab in the upper left that that unit that you're looking on the upper left is $25,000 and we've got 5 AM so it's really state of the art our students enjoy learning from these facilities.

Just to point out real quickly we do have a minor in manufacturing so if you're interested in 3 D printing or kind of the manufacturing field in general you can pick up a minor along the way if you're interested in robotics.

You can pick up a minor along the way as well as we've got a new minor in robotics that a lot of our students are taking so if you just Google robotic minor you be you'll find it or manufacturing minor you'll be you'll find that as well some of our student clubs there's a lot of'em I'll just point out a few you see kind of our seds group are nano sack group in the upper left their building satellites that are actually being deployed into space.

As there's our rocket team out in New Mexico from last summer.

You can see them there in the upper right at sunrise right before they're about to launch their their rocket you see the bottom left how big it is so they fabricate that entire thing here.

They go on a big road trip out to New Mexico every summer and they launch it in the national finals so you see them under the tent there on the right kind of getting ready for the day.

Society of automotive engineers they build are clean snowmobile are off road vehicle.

I got a number of vehicles that they're building their testing I see them driver in driving around campus and testing out their vehicles you be robotics team or club they're building all kinds of robots and a lot of our students are involved in that.

Um we also have students competing for national challenges like like the NASA big idea challenge NASA has realized that they can't solve every problem that they want to solve by themselves.

So they have basically crowdsourced some of their big challenges to universities in a couple of years ago they crowdsourced the challenge of bringing large payloads to Mars you're probably familiar with the Mars Rover which is a phenomenal accomplishment but it was a very small payload vehicle if we're really going to do something significant on Mars we have to get a lot of car go up there and so NASA it's a big big challenge that NASA said we need help with this so.

They issued a challenge we have deep connections to NASA.

I saw this challenge and and I spent some time in asset I reached out to these students said Hey do you want to do this for your senior design project.

And they said yeah we got we know nothing about Mars and I said well neither do I let's let's go ahead and figure this out so they competed they entered the competition it goes through rounds so they made it to the Top 12 so we then we kept going with it and they were basically went from fall to spring semester and they wanted to keep competing.

So then we got to select the final 4.

NASA paid all 3 of these gentlemen to fly down and NASA Langley in Virginia and compete in the final 4 it was us Illinois Purdue Ann.

Georgia Tech I think was the last one.

And and so we were all competing it was very cool uh Illinois team won that year but the NASA team was so impressed that they gave all the students from all 4 teams internships to NASA.

It's it's amazing 'cause 3 through these 3 gentlemen all turn.

Around their internships to NASA because they had better internships I couldn't believe it till they told me but they did have some pretty phenomenal internships and then Lastly I'll end with this are spaceballs which look at.

In this competition, they're looking at a lunar Rover, so this is actually in Houston. NASA in Houston has basically a lunar landscape that they've set up for this competition, and so our students competed qualified for the national finals. So they flew down to Houston and you see, they are basically kind of on the right hand side and the you be blue. They placed third nationally. If I kind of focus if your attention on the.

Left third of the of the picture. There you'll see a gentleman wearing and I love my T-shirt. MIT place six that year so you be third MIT 6 just saying our students are phenomenal. They did a fantastic job in that competition and they do in many of these competitions. So with that I'm going to stop going to join. Kind of the question and answer session that I know you guys have been flying around with, but I kind of turn it over.

This is my phone email that's obviously Department website. If you want to contact me offline, feel free.

But I'm going to ask Andrew and see how it's going and see if there's any questions I can help help answer.

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Yeah, great question. Uhm when I was an undergrad uh, 30 years ago. Research for Undergrads was not even a thing. You know it's not something we were any of us were thinking about. Now it's commonplace. A few years ago I had a sophomore. This is probably 10 or 15 years ago. I had a sophomore come to me and ask about getting involved in research and I had some seniors working with me. Sophomore was a little out of the ordinary at the time.

But now, um, it's quite common. I've got up. I had a sophomore. I've got a sophomore right now working with me. I've also gotta June. I've got a senior who started when he was a sophomore and its freshman actually are getting involved in some research that there's not a lot you can do as a freshman. Obviously because you haven't learned enough to contribute too much on the technical side of things. But that's OK for most professors because they want you to learn just being in the environment. I like, I said, I've got a sophomore right now that I agreed to mentor, and he's in my.

Lab doing some very cool work on additive manufacturing and his first semester. You know he didn't know a lot and so he was just listening. He was meeting with my graduate students meeting with me, asking questions, reading papers, and now he's doing a phenomenal job. Now he's basically got a scholarship to do research and he's doing a great job with that research. So I would recommend if you're thinking about research as an undergrad, absolutely get involved. It's a great resume builder as well, but it also.

Teaches you about the field and what's happening in research. How you do this? Uhm, I would get on our website once you arrive to you, be and look at basically our faculty and see the areas that they're working in in the areas that resonate with you. I'd shoot him an email, introduce yourself, see if you can have a few minutes of their time just to see if they've got any openings for an undergrad student. It would help if you went to professors that you have a class with.

So if you wanted to wait a little bit, maybe to your sophomore year when you start taking our classes, that's OK too, because then you can have a tether point with the professor. You could say, hey, look, I'm in your, I'm in your sophomore class. I really enjoy what we're learning in here can I can I talk to you about joining your research lab? Those are the easiest ways to do that. I would also suggest when you reach out to the Professor.

Do you have done some of your homework? Read their web page? Maybe even go skim through one of their papers that they have in their web page. Get a decent idea for what they're doing, 'cause if they ask you, hey, why do you want to join my my research lab?

And you say?

You know, I I don't know, uh, I just want to do research. It's not going to be as strong of an answer as if you could say, well, I really like what you're doing in 3D printing. You're looking at kind of a new materials. I've looked at plastic 3D printing and I know you're doing some metal 3D printing. I would really like to expand my knowledge in the metal 3D printing. Much better answer than just saying I don't know just because I want to do research to do a little homework that always comes across to me is very impressive.

So we have I mentioned one of my sophomores is getting some money for their research. My senior is also has won a number of scholarships to do research. There's some there's some scholarship opportunities to for undergrads to do research. Thank you for the question.

What else you got, Andrew?

Or or late in the day late and how you want to pop in here and say anything because you can fill in some of the gaps you can talk about the student.

Perspective on this so feel free to pop in Layton if you want to add some things to what I said.

Hey caught.

Um?

They are hey.

Hey.

Hum.

Research is definitely great at UV. It's one of the things I really like here, I'm.

I was really happy when I started working under a doctor Chowdhury as I started really doing a lot of cool stuff.

Get a lot more experience doing a lot of more nice things or.

A lot of interesting stuff going on. I work with swarm robotics in his lab and it's really cool. I like it alot, really challenges you and gives you a lot of experience doing things you wouldn't normally do.

And it teaches you a lot of.

Independence and.

Figuring stuff out like tinkering and.

Uh, exploring areas.

I really wish I started sooner. I was a little late. I started in my graduate but if you can start in undergrad, I know that there are a lot of Undergrads in doctor chatteris lab that I work with. They're great and they do a lot of cool stuff too. Like Oh. I'm honestly jealous that there they started as Undergrads goes. I wish I did that, so I definitely recommend that they're doing really cool stuff.

Cool, thank you Laden. Did were you mechanical or arrow or both undergrad?

Mechanical for undergrad and mechanical for grad now too.

Gotcha, cool.

So great, so great.

But you're doing research in you, Evie swarms.

Yes.

Right, so you know mechanical is a very flexible degree. That's why it's, uh, it's quite easy to do that double major and.

Yeah, there's so much overlap between mechanical and Aero.

Anything else you want to add later?

Yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Use a lot.

What is that?

No, keep going, keep going. I just said it was there anything else you want to add?

No.

Yeah, there's a lot of similarities between the two. I know that there are have a lot of cloud. I had a lot of classes with a lot of aerospace majors, they just have.

A few other classes that they take, but most of the stuff is. I usually have a lot. I usually had a lot of classes with aerospace majors and a lot of the stuff you use.

A lot of the stuff you learn in mechanical engineering.

I'm sure applies to aerospace and vice versa. There's a lot of similar concepts.

So.

Yeah.

Cool.

Very flexible.

Thank you Laden.

Andrew, anything else?

That's, uh.

You've you've pretty much touched on most of it, and in the in the in the slides when you talked about various clubs and stuff like that, there's there's been quite a few questions about that as well. We did have a few questions about number of female faculty members, so I was able to quickly pull pull that together.

And it's it's that's a good.

Kind of measuring stick, I would think a good selling point that we do have.

We do have a number of female professors and researchers who are doing really exciting things and are kind of ties back to the research point. Just very willing to take on.

Students said in an.

You know, in in the same way that a male professor would email, professors are great resources, although.

Let me jump in there, Andrew on that female faculty. This is. This is another very unique element of our Department. So the national average in mechanical engineering departments for female faculty is 13% for Aerospace Engineering, it's 11%.

Here you be were over 20%.

Um, which is which is just ridiculous, but it speaks to the culture that we have, and there's four pillars that we have in our in our culture. Basically, when are when are within our Department, it's collegiality, its collaboration, it's achievement and its integrity. And at the core, if you're going to collaborate and at a high level at a high level of achievement, high level of innovation and be collegial and treat each other with integrity, diversity is kind of at the core of all that.

And so that's basically one of our our core elements, and you can see that in how many female faculty members we have, so I don't know if somebody picked up on that as I was highlighting. But if you go to our website you'll see how many female faculty is we have. So when I say 20%, I'm talking about the full time faculty that we have here and we just just hired two more faculty that are coming next year. One of those is also female, so.

50% of the ones were hiring for next year or female, so it's really really a cool dynamic to have. You know, science is clear, the diversity breeds innovation.

And so if we're going to be talking if we're talking and claiming to be a very innovative Department with innovative research and innovative teaching.

We have to be an embracing diversity which we do, and so, um, I thank you for for elite either asking it or or realizing it are recognizing it as well, but I wanted to jump in with that. Thanks, Andrew.

Um, so I've been a couple questions now about class size is an instead of just typing I can just talk about this. So the oh I see Bailey here has kind of jumped in so.

Um, your first year, and especially for your mechanical classes, it's going to be pretty mixed. There's going to be certain situations, certain classes where you have.

You know larger classes in in larger lecture halls. Some of your elective classes are going to have, you know.

2020 four people in it, so it really kind of depends on the point you are in the program, whether it's whether it's a required course that you're in, that the entire junior cohort of in those are going to be your larger classes. But to that point I will say that I think that our faculty do a really, really good job of being available to students, and even though there are.

Large lecture halls and a lot of students in in the rooms. I think that our faculty do a really good job of making it seem like a more personal experience.

Yeah.

So it's a very long way to answer a class size.

I'll jump in there as well and just give a little bit of history. So just, um.

Maybe six or Seven years ago, our class sizes were enormous. I mean, I was teaching a class of 250 students.

And then we realized it just wasn't. Uhm, it wasn't effective either. On the student side or the professor side, you know it was. It wasn't a great experience, so we moved to a multisection model for all of our core classes. And now what used to be a 250 section course is now, for instance, three sections of 80.

An an those sections are coordinated. They share the same syllabi there. Basically on the same pace the instructors are on the same page and we found that actually students it's beneficial for students 'cause they have a smaller classrooms, more access to TAS and professors are professors. Prefer it because they get to know their students better. But also our students are realizing that now if they have, for instance an interview or some kind of conflict, they can go to one of the other sections.

And pick up on essentially the same lecture, because things are roughly moving more or less the same pace, and so there's a lot of benefits here. So now all of our core courses have been broken up into multi sections.

Which is a tremendous advantage.

I'll just hang out and wait, Andrew, if you want to pose anything else to Maine.

I've laid and you want to jump in if you think there's anything I should comment on with, I mean.

There was, uh, I'm just actually working.

I'm looking on our, uhm, I'm on our web Department website now. There is a question about connecting with.

Current students in the example was in said's trying to connect with current students.

We know that on our website and I just need to find it I there is oh so if you go to the mechanical and aerospace engineering website there is in the undergraduate tab, there's a student organizations. There's a drop down box and then you can click on student organizations. All of our major clubs are linked here with a description of the club. I'll link to the club website. That would be a really good way to.

Some kind of connect with them an you know kind of. Start building those connections.

If I wanted to put that out there.

Can you guys hear me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK.

All right doctor Lewis I'm going to jump in with 2 questions that I saw in there one is what is unique compared to other colleges about the aeromechanical experience here at you be.

So what's unique? Well, so a bit of background, so there's. There's an accreditation body called a bet. Uhm, they accredit all national programs.

So you know. Obviously I would suggest if you're looking at a mechanical or aerospace program, make sure there a bet accredited that basically is a stamp of accreditation and so basically what I bet tells us is this is what you need to teach for mechanical engineering and for aerospace engineering. So to some extent all mechanical engineering programs across the nation are quite similar. So are all aerospace engineering programs across the nation there quite similar because?

We're told by a bet. Basically what we what we need to teach now, how we teach it is where we can differentiate ourselves. So I was able to show you some of our undergraduate labs. We have very unique labs. We've got our wind tunnel. We've got our robotics lab. We've got our 3D printing lab. I mean, there's some other places that have things like that. But because we're the only aerospace program insooni, we are able to invest, and especially in our arrow program.

Maybe more than some of the other programs around the nation, but also it's the culture, right? It's the experience that you have your in an urban environment in Buffalo with tons of things to do. Very cool location on the waterfront.

I know it in the senior survey that we do we ask our students what's the coolest thing or what's their most memorable memory or experience of being AUB and some of it is student clubs and some of it is a chorus or professor but a lot of it is just the relationships that are built here which doesn't surprise me because it's just a culture of collegiality it's a culture of collaboration it's a culture of celebrating achievement we make a big deal out of our students successes I showed you just.

Just like one of our big student awards we've got dozens of those it could I could have spent an hour just on our student awards we make a big deal out of those and then integrity you know I think we do a very good job training students men and women of character because they're going to go out and design products that have an impact on people's lives and so and then obviously being part of the State University system the value for your degree at a place like you be is phenomenal.

Uhm you know that so I hear from AI'm a I'm AI'm a parent to AA college age daughter and that was a significant decision for all of us including my daughter you know where she can get the best value for her education in a place like you be it's hard to beat that there's a number of ways we differentiate ourselves but just realize at the core no matter where you go you're going to be learning the same thing you just have to look for those areas like.

Like a research culture that we have here do you want to get involved in research great place to be like Layton mentioned you want to have a place on urban campus with a lot of things to do and you know just just a very cool scene here great place to come high value for your dollar obviously unique aerospace program in the Sony system so that's where you want to look at for your own experience.

And II hate that this.

This has to be online obviously this is a very unique scenario that none of us have ever lived through because it's hard to kind of show you and tell you all the very cool things there would have been a tour that showed you some of those facilities I had to kind of capture photos for you but the facilities are phenomenal are robotics lab are you AV labs the one latent works in is awesome I mentioned some outdoor testing facilities so if you get involved in drones and robotics there's an outdoor testing facility.

That we have and we're developing and building that now so thanks for the question.

Certainly very relevant and I hope I was able to answer some of that thanks Bailey.

Yeah not a problem you're getting money thank you for that against her.

Sure no problem.

Uhm I guess another question that was in there too that I personally couldn't answer but what aerospace companies do you be students usually gravitate towards after graduating.

Yeah a great question uhm so there's a number of'em I mentioned a space X obviously Tesla is in the space industry as well we have Tesla right here in our backyard you know they've they've created a huge operation here in Buffalo so we have great connections with them Amazon I mentioned I'm I'm a good collaborator with one of their primary lead engineers and so he tells me all the time look we are we are desperate for more aerospace engineers so.

You be is one of their targeted institutes as far as Amazon goes and he spends about half the year here in Buffalo he's trying to actually create an Amazon presence here in Buffalo and so because of.

For many reasons but one of'em is primarily because of our aerospace program he came through it actually so he's a grad of ours knows how great our program is and now wants to develop an Amazon presence in Buffalo and higher our students so very cool I mentioned NASA we have very deep connections at NASA many of the sites so we place many students every year at NASA sites whether it's in Texas or Florida or Langley in Virginia or Glen in Ohio.

Um are Goddard um lots of these places JPL the Jet Propulsion lab out in California we have students going there and turning their every year an getting hired there every year so those are some of the big ones obviously we've got a lot of we've got a handful of students going to like space X suppliers so you probably haven't heard of these companies but they're in the aerospace industry because they're making components for space X.

And for Tesla and for NASA you know so there there in the space industry they're kind of embedded in that so there's a number of companies on their airspace side.

Yeah not.

Thanks Bailey and thanks to everyone ask that.

So we've got a just a few more minutes Bailey is that right at least on that part of the interaction.

Yeah and we're getting a lot of questions about what types of computers do we need I know that you be doesn't specifically recommend a type of computer but is there something that you would say yeah that works well for aerospace mechanical.

I'll find it.

No yeah like Bailey said there's not really any uhm if you go if you go to yeah if you go to the uh it's the school of engineering node services CNS sins.

Not said but sins uhm they basically have some recommendations on on platforms but they support.

You see they support Mac they support Linux uhm I see a blend of PC's and Macs from our students and our faculty I would guess we're probably half and half so it's really personal preference you know we supply a lot of the software but you'll get you'll get a sense on the hardware requirements at the sins web page but really it's a personal preference.

Layton what do you have.

Hum, I have. I haven't HP elite book.

It's pretty old and it still.

Keeps up with everything I need to do, so I mean I don't know. I don't have any.

Specifics on the specifications of it.

Hum.

From and I can I can speak to that too for hand from having students come to my office to to be advised and ask questions about, you know?

Anything really having to do with the programming classes and stuff. I have students walking in my office with Mac books. I have students walking in my office with pretty much any any brand of computer you can think of.

They all seem to work and I don't know that you could make a bad decision necessarily, so just putting that out there, current current students aren't using one specific type. They're all kind of.

Whatever is feasible for you should be fine, I would say.

Yep.

And there are there are. There are also a lot of labs and resources on campus for you to use.

So.

Hum.

Yeah.

Right, that's that's a good point to you. Don't necessarily have to have your own. There are like, like Clayton just said, there are a lot of computer Labs, Library Services, library spaces. There's a lot of opportunity for you to use campus computer as well.

We have one question tordue doctor Lewis gene you give guys a deal give the key fundamentals to engineering FA review and preparation for the PE exam.

Yeah there is a there is when when seniors graduate we encourage them to take the FIE exam we do give that here.

That's obviously setting up to be a professional engineer which you take the PE exam 5 years later but I took the FYI exam when I graduated I think is the very best the best time to take it 'cause everything just kind of fresh in your memory so we do encourage that here and we make that available for seniors who are graduating.

As far as aid.

Ask.

Sorry camper, go ahead.

Yeah it's OK I just saw I saw 11 question roll by about the 3 D printing students have access to the 3 printing lab yes they can print.

To that lab uhm.

I mean it helps or research as well but it also helps support classes and students can use it.

Sorry Andrew.

Just to kind of piggyback off of that.

There are 3 D.

That's the second time we've done that camper. Go ahead.

I was gonna mention.

Yeah somebody mentioned something and see we have a machine shop that has 2 fantastic CNC machines a-hole workshop Mills and lathes and kind of your more traditional fabrication that separate from the more 3 D printing additive manufacturing lab but yeah we've got all that.

This.

Go ahead Andrew.

Um, speaking before about the computers and all that there was there was a question a little bit ago just about if you're experiencing problems with your computer or you need help downloading software or anything along those lines. Time doctor Lewis talked about sense Sens. I'll put a link to their website in the chat box. They are who we go to that I personally go to if I need help with my computer or software or something along those lines. So that would be a good resource for you. I'll put it in the.

A chat box on.

In a minute.

I I love it. Like I said, I came here 20 four years ago. That's not where I grew up and I love it.

Family loves being here.

You know a lot, but it's late now. I'll go to you on that because it's student experience and.

How do you like it?

Other than.

I mean it took awhile to get used to the amount of snow, so I'm really not used to that much now 'cause I came from Long Island.

But other than that, it's pretty great. The environments nice.

I like the area. There's lots of stuff to do. Your close to Canada, so if you want to travel a bit you can do that.

Um?

There's lots of Things Lake LaSalle I've gone kayaking, kayaking or canoeing on there, so that's pretty cool. You can do that during the summer, which is nice.

Um?

Yeah, uh.

I don't know what else to say about it.

Cool, thank you. This note wasn't even that bad this year there was.

It was nothing.

No, not at all.

Bailey, what do you what do you like living here? What do you like about living here?

No no no.

There is a question in the chat about how easy is it to get around campus. That kind of ties into the weather thing too. If you, for the most part on North campus, especially if you don't want to go outside, you probably don't have to. Most of the buildings, specially not away for awhile when you get away from the dorm for most most of the.

Buildings around the student arm union and things like that, and various classrooms. They're all connected either with you know, bridges or or the jet up against each other enough that you don't really have to go outside if you don't want to.

Generally don't. If I have to go from somewhere else, I try to stay inside as much as I possibly can, so it's not too bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm working a few questions specifically about internships in co-ops when where how those types of things I guess so could you comment I guess on the structure of our program when it comes to internships in co-ops.

Most of our students do internships, some of them finding find him on their own, but we have a very, very helpful career placement center that has a dedicated staff.

I've dedicated staff members just for engineering.

And so we have a technical um, career fair in the fall where most most most companies are coming to hire for interns. But a lot of them are coming to hire fault full time as well. So we help place students in internships Co option option whenever Coop School. But we do have some students do a Co op experience and so that delays in their graduation. Obviously a little bit.

But if they want to set up a coop experience and sometimes interns turn into Co op so a student intern will have a great summer and the company will ask them to stay for the fall, then it's just on the student to figure out how to manage their program. If they want to stay for another semester. So that's where are advising team comes in and helps kind of workout. Some of those those details. But the program is set up to really house intern ships very, very well.

Uh, we have an internship class that you can take in the summer as well so you could get credit.

That could be a technical elective as an internship class. You could take an intern in the fall for credit. You could take an intern in the spring for credit.

Uh, an internship, so um, really robust internship environment here. There are some co-ops, but that's more kind of on a one off experience, but certainly we support co-ops if the opportunity exists. And if the student and the company wants to make that happen.

We do I didn't mention, but we do have a mechanical engineering a five year BS MBA program.

Uh, so you could get the PS plus the NBA, which would typically take six years. You can get in five, so we have about 10 or 15 students doing that every year.

Um, and they're getting just phenomenal job offers. As you can imagine, is a lot of companies really value that engineering background plus the management understanding?

So that's, uh, that's an option you have here as well.

Who?

Just to put it out there for any of you guys that after we get wrapped up here have questions for me.

If you about classes you're going to take, or pretty much anything you guys have been asking now you've had questions as we've gone along here. If you go to the MAY website, doctor Lewis put it in his last slide that we can still see here. If you go to the staff directory page.

I am.

Right on there you'll see my my my picture and my name and my.

Maybe email address is right there for you. Feel free to get ahold of me. Ask any question you want. I'd be happy to.

Continue and help you through this. This decision for you.

I'll address a question about subjects in the space, uhm?

Area that that we collaborate with. So it's very broad. As latent mentioned, you know he's working on drone swarms.

Yeah, that's more kind of this atmosphere, but we're also have projects looking at outside of our atmosphere. I mentioned doctor boda looking at space debris removal, space debris tethers. Doctor christidis is one of the leading global experts in satellite navigation. We have ourselves team and their sponsored by major space organizations, so there's a lot of topics. If you go to our website and just kind of.

Look through our our faculty. You can see how many of 'em are involved in in space related work, so the Jet Propulsion Lab works with us. I mentioned Amazon already SpaceX NASA is one of our big partners.

You know there's some of that. I know I'm forgetting right now, but there's a number of topics. Space propulsion is a huge one. The Department of Energy is working with us on future space propulsion systems, basically hypersonics if anybody is familiar with that term. That's what we've got a lot of expertise. Here. You be as well. So thanks for your question. Hope I was able to give some detail there.

I see a question about the aerospace more.

Astronautical aeronautical, it's actually probably pretty well balanced.

Um?

Yeah, we've got.

And then we've got. We've got strength and partners in both of those those areas, so, um.

Eleanor Bodom, one of our most recent hires, adds depth to the space side to the Astro side. We've got doctor James tint James Chen, also one of our recent hires adds more strength.

Um to the arrow side. So it's really it's, uh, I think it's a very nice blend, probably equally balanced.

And I see a question here about stoves in Microwaves for freshman dorms.

I'm not sure about all dorms, but I have been to a few and they've all had stoves at least. Usually they have a community stove on, sometimes a microwave for cooking. I know a lot of people use to cook in my dorm and other dorms. People like to cook so they have those usually.

So if you're talking about the fall, we don't know yet, um.

No. We were making preparations for any scenario weather fully on campus.

Fully online, uh, some kind of hybrid? Um, were making preparations for all of 'em. Here's what I do know that because were making preparations so early and because of the quality of our faculty, we will put together world class education for the fall.

National were planning on so we don't know exactly what that's going to look like. An if if the institution is telling you that they know what it's going to look like, they're wrong because no one knows. I mean, we're so we're looking at all possible combinations deploying our resources in our expertise to get ready for whatever we've got in front of us. So stay tuned. We will communicate as soon as we know more, but just know that we're working hard behind the scenes.

To get ready for the fall no matter what happens.

A couple questions I've seen most recently. Now how many MAY an aerospace undergrad students do you roughly have in the Department?

Roughly across all four years, about 1200.

Um?

You know that in the in there really are core courses. Which are, you know parts off more, but junior and senior.

Yeah, I think it's more a five 600 and so that's why we've gone to these multisection models are labs are all in small groups, so we have many, many lab sections, so you're not.

It the wind tunnel with 60 other people just kind of watching experiment the arrow. The wind tunnel will have basically 10 or fewer people in that kind of lab environment, so you're actually get to interact with it. Now there's a number of sections obviously, but in our lecture classes we've got multiple sections. Like I mentioned before.

So you're in a class with, you know, we aim between 70 and 100 students in a section. Some of those, some of those sections are actually smaller than that, but that's kind of where our aim is.

Because because we are one of the bigger programs in the northeast that affords us.

Some things that, uh, like labs you know, affords us to be able to have a diversity of labs and other smaller places just to just aren't able to.

Together and support it affords us having a diverse set of student club options like I mentioned.

Yeah, so I. I think with some of the size there's certainly some advantages that come along with that.

A quick question about minors paired with Aerospace Engineering, so I don't know the full.

Inventory of you be miners and others a lot, but at least in our Department the robotics one pairs well. I think the manufacturing one compare fairly well, but you could even I think there's a minor in, for instance, electrical engineering that you could pick up, but I think the probably the the best paired one is maybe robotics.

Alright, well I think I'm going to be signing of-. I haven't advisements meeting at 3:30 so I will see you all an if like they said if we have. If you have any questions feel free to reach out to any of us.

Yeah.

Thanks Billy.

And then we sign up yet thank you.

Thanks.

Bye.

So Bailey is part of our advisement team. Obviously she had to go have a have a meeting, uhm. Most likely on zoom for an advisement. The Great Advisement team, so will will stay on for about 3 more minutes and then, like Andrew is said, you're welcome to contact Andrew or myself.

I'm sure if you wanted to ask late in a question send it to me or Andrew we can we can uh get ahold of latent as well.

Absolutely.

Uhm, he's an awesome guy, so really glad he took out. Took out some of his time today to be with us.

Yeah, I'd be happy to answer any questions you guys have.

Thanks.

Oh

Uh, the cover 19 status.

Um?

I mean, I guess, uh.

The stats.

Um, probably find.

You know the stats for our County in New York City or New York State online, and they're probably better than I can.

And I can give you up.

I don't know what else to say. We're kind of all in isolation, all healthy.

Every good at your house, Andrew.

Yeah, everybody's good, we're just.

Just like everybody else, we're doing what we're asked to do. We're doing what we need to do to get through it and.

Eventually returned to, you know.

Normal life I guess.

Late and you guys are right.

Cool.

Yeah, thanks for asking, yeah.

Don't we need to do?

Yeah.

There's a question about UBS reputation.

Well, it's.

You know when we were talking about a Top 50 school in the nation and the top 30 public school in the nation? I mean, you're up there with with a lead company at that point. So yeah, it carries a very high reputation.

I guess if there there's there's schools that have.

I don't know a better reputation or a bigger name as you mentioned in the chat. Um, perhaps, but again, it's. It's that value. You know, the value of a degree versus what you're investing into it. Like I said, You're going to learn the same things at the undergrad level, basically anywhere, because we're accredited, we have to obey by the requirements set up by our accreditation body. Graduate School becomes a little different. You can Graduate School is late. Notice you can almost take whatever you want.

You can specialize and.

And really start getting specific about your courses. But undergrad, you're going to be taking the same classes here as you would anywhere else, so it's just about experience.

It's about a value, but the you be brand is is certainly nationally and internationally very, very well respected. and I hear that wherever I go.

Yeah, I would definitely say it's got. It's got a good name. I've never said I'm going to you be to anyone and then have no idea what I'm talking about. They're always either like Oh yeah, you be or they're like yeah, that's a great school nice so.

Yeah, something got a good name. I wouldn't say it's I would say it's up there.

Yeah yeah 30,000 over 30,000 alumni.

Uhm, I think I've got that number right, but we've got alumni all over the world I run into him everywhere. They're very proud of their degree and where they came from.

I'll talk about 30,000 and engineering alumni.

The school obviously has way more than that, but.

I'm just talking about engineering.

Alright, so, uh, I think with that.

We will come.

Andrew Layton and I will.

Kind of pull back.

Um from the web and R.

I think what we can leave it open though, right Andrew?

Yeah, Yep.

Yeah, we can leave it open if you still want to chat about things, but grateful you guys were on here. We do have any. You be pilots, a student club.

They have a flying simulator flight simulator basically. So for for pilot training that was donated to us by a major aerospace company.

Uhm, it's just a hauling upstairs from me, so we do have the you be pilots club here. That was the last question that came in. So again, email us anytime.

Good to see everybody stay well. Looking forward to seeing you on campus.

Thanks everybody.

Thank you.

Andrew Leighton, thank you, will see you soon.

See you.

Yep, thanks number.

Yep.